>> they are broken, still, and always will be. and they cling now to amber's best friends, ashley and monica. >> our adopted daughters, which are amber's friends through thick and thin. >> they have each named daughters after amber. and they hang on to memories, like gold. >> it's like you have to put it in a box, and just keep it there for safekeeping. that's what you have. you hold on to. >> it hurts. it hurts. life will never be what it was with her. >> that's all for this edition of dateline. i'm andrea canning, thank you for watching. good morning, let's get to the conversations you might

have missed. >> january 6th was a disgrace. american citizens attacked their own government. they used terrorism to try and stop us, specific piece of domestic business they did not like. fellow americans beat and bloodied our own police. they stormed the center floor. they tried to hunt down the speaker of the house. they built a gallows and chanted about murdering the vice president. they did this because they had been fed wild falsehoods by the most powerful man on earth. because he was angry and lost an election. former president trump's actions preceded the riot for a

disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty. >> therefore, i am endorsing donald j. trump. the one thing we cut off there, maybe it's not fair is right after that, he broke into a rousing tune. happy days are here again. it was like the 32 convention. i couldn't believe it. but yeah. a little discordant, song didn't go with the message. but you know, that's mitch. >> mitch mcconnell there, that was in 2021. it was a month after january 6th , blaming donald trump for the insurrection, squarely, yesterday, mitch mcconnell endorsed president trump for president. >> who saw that come snag >> donald trump relentlessly attacked in a racist way, mitch mcconnell's wife. he said i have said for a long time, i will endorse whoever the nominee is, even if it's

the guy i blame for an attempted coup for the united states government. >> we say a lot of bad things sometimes about ted cruz here. there is a difference between mitch mcconnell and ted cruz. if donald trump had ever attacked ted cruz's wife, ever called her ugly, ever struck out at her in the most personal of terms, that is texas tough right there. you cross that line with ted, you know what? you might as well as crossed the rio grand, my friend. >> on the way to cancun. >> call senator cruz's wife is ugly, or father assassinated jfk, he will not support you. he won't do it. >> at least not at the convention. >> he will vote, and a few months later do a phone bank

for donald trump. >> i guess lindsey graham. i mean, that guy, mr. spine. go on the floor. >> enough is enough. i'm out. >> i'm out. and then three red necks and a hound dog chase him around reagan national and he's like, count me in. >> it's not like somebody docks him and puts his cell phone there. >> i think we need a compilation. start with chris christie and mcdonald's episode. >> on mcconnell, i will say the two moments that led to donald trump's comeback post january 6th. one is house speaker mccarthy, soon to be wanting to be speaker mccarthy, heading to mar-a-lago, and posing for a photo. the other is mcconnell choosing not to convict trump in that second trial. to push it until after the inauguration, having it in february. believing things would cool off. voting to acquit himself and had he voted to convict and whipped others to do so, trump wouldn't have been able to run

for office again. mcconnell chose not to do that. >> i would say, a lot of things mitch did that we saluted on this show, and he stood up. he stood up to trump. at very important times. at the end, if you want to take this endorsement at the end of his career, basically, or if you want to take what happened at the end of that process where there really was a question, could mitch mcconnell have gotten enough republicans to convict donald trump? and that impeachment proceeding? he made the call, we'll let the courts play it out. and we see more where that led up, george? >> yeah. >> part of being in leadership is showing some leadership and at least attempting to do what you think is right. i mean, you know, we all have political minds. we talk a lot about strategy. but there's also just such a thing as right and wrong. at the end of the day, it

sounds like a lot of people have forgotten why you go to washington. it is supposed to be to serve americans. it's supposed to be a public servant. and this just looks like it's about power. it is shameless. and americans understand that. they see that's part of why so many voters are deeply demoralized and cynical about this process at this point. >> and it is shameless, but it's also bizarre. i mean, here's a man, how old is mitch mcconnell? >> old enough that it doesn't matter. >> exactly. >> i'm old enough that it doesn't matter. you get to a point -- >> why not go out and say what you think? he did say what he thought for that brief shining moment on february 13, 2021, where he said not only the stuff that we just saw on the tape. he said there's a criminal law in this country. he was endorsing jack smith before jack smith was even

appointed. he was saying that the man was a criminal. that he did cause these people to engage in violence on the hill and that one of the remedies could be criminal prosecution. and so where is he today? and it's for what? he is done. >> for what, and i'm sorry, i'm just going to ask, and i say this with cruz. i say it of lindsey, i say all of them. i say it of just all the people trump insulted. what man, i ask that as a man, or woman. but as a man, i say what man would put up with that? i had a very powerful republican slander a friend of mine. 20 years later, 20 years later he pulls me aside before his speech and begs me to stop and he says, joe, it's been 20

years. it's been 20 years. i said you shouldn't have said that about my friend. it's going to be 20 more years. i mean, that's what we would all do. except for my friends. except for my friends, when donald trump said i was a murder and i should be executed. a lot of them voted for donald trump. but that even raises a question. what is it about donald trump? >> it's his brilliance. >> insult someone's wife or husband and mitch mcconnell's case, continue racist slurs against his wife. >> yeah. >> and they are just fine with it. i'm not even looking at donald trump. i'm looking at these people. i'm looking at my former friends. oh yeah, he called you a murder, but vote for him anyway. regulations. they will be down on this. it's crazy. >> yeah, you and i talked about

this on and off the air. what are those looks in the mirror like in the morning or at night for lindsey graham or for ted cruz or any of those guys. not talking about politics. if you have any personal pride, how do you do it? how do you swallow all of that down and support the guy that attacked you relentlessly. he attacks lindsey graham in his home state during a primary. the crowd is booing lindsey graham while he stands there and mocked him. takes their support for granted and he should, because there's nothing he can do to them that they wouldn't fall in line anyway. but it is. again, not politics, as a person who has personal pride, how do you do it? i don't know. >> lindsey's first words are, hey. my first two words if someone did that to me would be markettedly different. i don't think i'm outside of the norm here, lamir. again, this is so bizarre. i want to underline again,

mitch mcconnell insulted repeatedly, said this guy tried to basically destroy american democracy. he watched his wife attacked with racist repeatedly, and he said i endorse donald trump. >> it's so deeply cynical and based out of fear of trump. mcconnell is not going to run again. yes, he does want a republican to have the majority in the senate again, even if he's not going to be the leader. >> trump took that from him twice. >> yes, twice. he would have been senate majority leader over the past four years, except for one person, and one person alone. >> the two men have not spoken in years, and yet mcconnell still backs him. he defended it by saying, you know, february 2021, just days after that speech, i said i would back whoever the republican nominee was. and that of course became -- because he is putting party before country. that's what he's doing.

party before personal pride, too. >> george, that's an old custom when it is george h.w. bush or john mccain, mitt romney, whoever it is. bob dole. >> george h.w. bush. >> you said, the stakes aren't that high. a man may face criminal prosecution because he led an attempted coup against the government. maybe you can change the tradition for this one case. >> it's not just doing it for the country. if he only cared about the republican party, he would have spoken out and said, we have to get rid of trump long ago. even if he wanted to sacrifice himself just for his party. i mean, why not do that? >> we have lots more to get to this hour. morning joe weekend continues after just a short break. j.p. morgan wealth management knows it's easy to get lost in investment research. get help with j.p morgan personal advisors.

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city subways. governor hochul is governing the system. in the past week, an mta conductor was struck in the head with a glass bottle. a 64-year-old man was kicked on to the tracks at penn station and a man needed four stitches after another passenger slashed him with a box cutter. joining us now is the democratic governor of new york, kathy hochul. governor, thanks for being with us. >> look at the headlines. the newspaper of record, reverend al likes to say for morning joe, the new york post, boots on the ground. and then the daily news, soldiers in the subway. >> so, governor, no governor takes lightly calling out national guard troops and sending them potentially into harms way. what went into your decision to send state troopers in the new york city subway? >> i wanted to send reenforcements for the mayor of new york, who is responsible

for policing the subways. the subways are vast. we have seen a number of crimes and again, not statistically significant, but psychologically significant. i want more people to go on the subways. >> thank you for saying that. people will say, crimes at a 50 year low and everything is wonderful. and willy will say, why is it that all my friends say don't go on the subway or i go into a cvs store and the tooth paste is behind plastic. it's psychologically. do new yorkers feel safe? >> i can show you all the statistics in the world that say you should feel safe because the numbers are better. you're the mom on the subway with the baby in a stroller. you're the parent putting your kid on the subway to go to high school. if you are anxious, i'm the governor of new york, i'm concerned about it. if you feel better walking past someone in a uniform to make sure that someone doesn't bring a knife or a gun on the subway,

then that's exactly why i did it. i want to change the psychology around crime in new york city because we are the safest big city in america. i want people on the subways. it is safe. i'm going to make sure people feel safe. >> it's far and away the best way to get around new york. it always has been, still ride the subway all the time. but i was saying to you in the break, that over the last couple of years, you do notice that when we take the subway, stand up on the yellow line and look over to see if the train was coming. everybody stands back. they are against the back wall or against the post because of these stories we hear about getting pushed in front of a train. it doesn't happen a lot statistically, but it does happen. this is the response to a problem, but what about the root of the problem? why is there a little uptick in subway crime? why are we seeing some of this? >> we're not at full capacity. we have about 4 million passengers a day. it's usually 6 or 7. i think

when there are trains emptier, people feel at ease to interact with others. sometimes in a violent way. we get the trains full again, the platforms full again, then crime does go down. that's why we saw such a spike during the pandemic. the criminals feel at ease that no one is watching them. they are watching. also part of my plan is every single subway train is now going to have cameras on it. that was not the case. i sped up the process. now even our conductors boost will have cameras in there, because we don't know who the perpetrator is or the person who slipped the neck of a conductor just a week and a half ago. i talked to the doctor who saved his life. what a great guy to be on the train and save the life of a conductor. that's not the norm and i don't want people to think that will be normalized on the subways. we want to make sure we take back the subways. no stop and frisk. this is not punitive.

this is deterrent. >> your move here received some applause from perhaps unlikely sources, senator of arkansas, cheered this. and has some pushback from groups in new york city who worry about the idea of the national guard being on the subway. >> why do they worry about it? >> just the idea of they don't think the national guard, a soldier, should be on the subway. >> why? >> because they think that's a step too far. they don't think it's necessary. >> not necessary for what? >> i don't understand. i don't understand. >> i think there's a sense among some that they believe that soldiers place is not on new york city streets. but the governor made that decision. can you tell us more about what their per view will be? how do they work with the nypd? >> in coordination with the nypd. they are primary. this is their job, they are there to protect the subways. they need help. i'll give them help as long as

help is needed. i have 1,000 individuals. i don't have to keep them there long. i may keep them there a long time. i'm not going to tell the criminals the day i'm stopping this, because they will be back the next day. that's not a good crime prevention strategy. also to the nay sayers, i'm reading articles of people saying hochul is saying if you committed a crime on the subway, you should not be able to take the subway again, right? i don't want to sit next to someone who just, you know, harmed someone last year and got out. people are saying i'm going to be harassing people and going to be stopping them. that's not the objective at all. i'm here to protect people. particularly people in communities of color, who are riding the subways in high proportion because they don't have the luxury of vehicles or getting to their low wage jobs. i want them to be safe. that's why i'm doing this. people criticize everything we do. get in line. i say as the governor of new york. they are always saying something. all i know is my job is to protect the people of this

state and i'm going to demonstrate that democrats fight crime as well. so this narrative that republicans have said and hijacked the story that 're soft on crime, we defund the police. no, we care about civil liberties. we want to make sure police protect our citizen's rights, but by god, i'm going to protect their lives and sense of safety and security here in the city of new york. >> governor, first of all, it's good to fight crime and certainly those in communities of color are the disproportionately the victims of crime. at the same time, breakdown because you and i had a conversation that this is not going to lead to stop and frisk and the national guard will not be interfering directly on the subways. because when we deal with the jerome cases and others, we don't want over policing, but we need people protected. how do we protect that we don't go back into stop and frisk and violating people's civil

liberties, at the same time, relax people like brother joe and i did, we're fighting crime. >> i take the concerns you raise so seriously. and that is why they are a deterant. there's a scheduled stop of individuals to look at their bags based on numbers. not who the person is. not how they look, but there is a thought out process to make sure we are not selecting individuals. we're not profiling people. none of that is going to happen here. and if it does, i'll stop it. because that's not the objective. the objective is to restore the sense of safety and security in our subways, make people know they will get to their destination without any harm. and these individuals are not even going through your bags. they are a support function. that is it. i think it will do a lot to calm down the fears right now. the anxiety, which is running

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interaction for information. catch-up chats with his children and grandchildren. talks with fellow parishioners after mass. exchanges with workers on his property in wilmington, delaware. spontaneous calls to former colleagues from consumer prices to masking guidelines, to loneliness. the president brings their worries to the oval office. the chance encounters and informal chats give the information a random limited quality. seeming to depend on whom biden runs into and there are concerns at the moment, leaving some maids to marvel at the influence these casual interactions have on setting the governing agenda. when were you looking for when you set out to embark on this series and tell us more about what you found. >> yeah, thank you so much for having me. it's great to be with you this morning. the goal i set out a few months ago to try and better understand how the president

does his job. he can prioritize an issue. he can meet with whoever he wants. and the process by which he does his job is mostly not available to the american people. we see him give speeches. most of his day is spent in meetings. having conversations with aids and other world leaders, and that is just not something that we can see day-to-day. i set out to try and better understand, as he runs for reelection, what does the president look like behind the scenes? the first one, looked at how he gets information. there's the daily presidential briefing where he meets with the national security team, and he has briefings all day with aides. how much he craves those pulse checks from americans outside the presidential bubble. he spent most of his career in the senate commuting every day from wilmington to washington. on amtrak, where he chatted

with passengers and conductors. obviously, that has changed dramatically as he lives in the white house. he compared it to living in a guilded jail. and so now as he leaves for the weekends, as he does most weekends, he craves those opportunities. even if they are informal and casual and infrequent. whether it's going to church on saturday evenings for mass as he often does, or being at his home in wilmington and having gardeners coming to his property and bring up issues with him. he comes back on monday morning to the oval office, and starts barraging his aides with questions about what are we doing about this? how do we think about this? it's a remarkable thing that's how the president really craves getting these pulse checks from every day americans. >> tyler, i love the idea for this piece. it really gets into the fundamental understanding that the president has in terms of, you know, how his policies are affecting the average american.

he used to take theamtrak every day. when you're the president of the united states, you oftentimes become more insulated from interacting with average americans. one thing that you noted in your piece is he asks for letters from his team every week that talk about how the policies he implemented, which are quite a few, by the way, are actually impacting those people. how the inflation reduction act is impacting someone directly. how the bipartisan infrastructure bill is having an effect on someone's family or their community. can you talk about how his team puts together those letters and how those letters help inform him on his decision making process. >> absolutely. and many americans might be familiar with these letters that presidents get from barack obama, who systematically received ten letters every night in his briefing book to take into the residence and read. barack asked for a representative of letters. it became famous about which letters obama was going to read

that night. this dates back to william mckinley administration, where the letters processing was formalized in this office of presidential correspondence. clinton got them every few weeks. george w. bush got them less frequently. for biden, it's five letters every week. he often sets them aside for weekend reading. as you said, the letters that biden particularly gets are ones that talk about the policies and how they have impacted americans lives directly. those are often skewed positively where he wants to, or aides want him to see directly how the policies he signed into law, a slew of legislation, how that has impacted americans lives and improved their lives. so not as systemically as obama did with ten every night, but another way to biden seeks to get out of the presidential bubble. >> thank you very much. coming up, we'll take a

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>> president biden speaking in december, denouncing a rise in antisemitic incidents in the united states following the october 7th hamas terrorist attack on israel. joining us now is the new cover story for the magazine, frank, good morning. in your piece, you write this. in the years following world war ii and especially as the world began to comprehend the extent of the nazi genocide. antisemitism faded, american- jewish -- today, jews are treated as the apotmy of whiteness. focuses so relentless on the role of privilege as the left does will be dangerously blind to antisemitism. antisemitism itself entails privilege. in the death spiral of

liberalism, extremism begets further extremism on the right. to protest, the new progressives, right wing edge lords and trolls attempted to seize the mantel of liberty. conspiracy theory hardens into conventional wisdom, embedding violence and thought and in deadly action. a society that holds its jews at arms length is likely to hunt down scapegoats than addressing underlying defects. although it is hardly an iron law of history, such societies are prone to decline. it would be the end of the golden age not just for jews, but for the country that nurtured them. it does feel like we're on something, or something has changed even in these five months since october 7th. where do you see this headed from here? >> i think it's important to note that what we're seeing

began much before october 7th. there were signs and it was not just a problem that we see on the left. it's a problem that we see on left and the right. i think you can trace a lot of it back to donald trump.. antisemitism had been locked up in a closet. conner cruz o'brian once said, antisemitism is a late sleeper. so when trump basically gave the green light to white supremacysts, to say they were more welcoming to the mainstream, you saw this tremendous surge of antisemitism. and i think what's important about what we're witnessing now is it's not just about the jews. the antisemitism is a symptom of a democracy and of a political culture that is failing. that when we're unable to resolve our differences through politics, when you see violence rising. when you see conspiracy rising,

these are conditions that are ripe for the rise of antisemitism, but they are also the conditions that are the decline of a democracy. >> franklin, o'brian did say antisemitism is a late sleeper. he could well have said antisemitism is a latent sleeper. as you write in this piece, and i want you to explain this, please, the jewish vacation from history ended on september 11, 2001. it didn't seem that way at the time, but the terror attacks opened an era of crisis which became fertile soil where the hatred of jews took root. >> so i was looking for where this epidemic, this recent bout of the epidemic began. and when i grew up in the 1980s and 90s, it seemed as if antisemitism was a dead force in american society.

there were scholars and socialologists who said antisemitism was so minuscule, so fringe, that it wasn't really worth worrying that much about. and then the terror attacks of september 11 happened. antisemitism was surging. you had conspiracy theories that blamed the fall of the twin towers on the intelligence service. you had other theories that said america's adventurism was the product of jewish warmongers that had dual loyalties. this was more mainstream. what you saw was that the 1990s were kind of this vacation from history. it was a time we said was the end of history. everything seemed like it was headed on a great course. we have this rolling series of crisis. you have 9/11, the iraq war, the financial crisis. trump. and the tea party rises. and crisis really is this thing

where people need to explain something that is inexplicable. so deep inside the western mind, deep inside the american mind, is this tendency to find this very convenient theory that blames the jews for everything that has gone wrong. >> frank, one of the things that really interested -- caught my eye in your piece was you talked about how many of us that call ourselves progressive have been swept into this or at least give some kind of oxygen to what is antisemitic. you can be, i am opposed to netanyahu, and still embrace the fact that you're not going to be for people in israel that are civilians and children being subjected to terrorism and still denounce what is going on in gaza.

talk about how we could go too far, because i've had to, in my life, deal with, wait a minute, i shouldn't have said that because that's not what i meant. and how the left cannot give oxygen to people that are antisemitic, racist, hom ophobic. i think your piece really drives that nail through the wood. >> thank you for making that distinction, reverend al. if you actually polled most american jews, they would have sharp criticisms of netanyahu. netanyahu's approval rating is not high. and i personally have many criticisms of the occupation of the campaign being conducted in gaza. but this is a separate question. so i think the way in which things get taken too far is that jews end up getting pushed out of progressive coalitions because there's a litmus test that is imposed on them. you have to be antizionist.

even if american jews have criticisms of israel, those criticisms come of a place of love for a country and a place. and they are being told, if you have that love, which is so deeply embedded in your culture, in your religion, then you can't join our group. so you see this happening on college campuses, where the source of the center of jewish life on campus gets excluded from coalition, even though the people attending the services are very progressive. you have sexual assault survivor groups at university campuses that say, if you are zionist, you are not welcome here. it's the term, zionist, which has become this synonym almost for jews. it's where things start to go, i think, in my mind, too far. that antizionism, the use of this term, zionism, which describes jews as being

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by suicide a month later. and i realized it was bigger than that. it was a book about grief, about friendship, about the joy we sort of experienced and while i'm not someone who could be confused with identifying a marketplace, i kind of wish this book had existed when i felt so sad, but i felt so sad in 3d and i felt humor and anger and all of these emotions. >> sloane, if you could tell us a little more about how you try to balance with the subject so weighty, so sad, with your signature humor. and what do you hope when others read this book, what do you hope they can take from it and apply to their own lives and potentially their own losses? >> well, there's always levity in that sort of de tepography. i have a strange analogy or

reference. that is part of grief is, you know, you laugh and then you feel like somebody punched you in the stomach and you are pulled up short by the profound loss that you feel. it imitates, hopefully, that real feeling. i guess what i want people to take away from it is that grief is not exclusive to loss of a parent, loss of a spouse, loss of a child, god forbid. and there's all sorts of ways we grieve, especially now, especially post pandemic. and you shouldn't ladle the struggle for permission to grieve what you want over your feelings, if that makes sense. >> tell us what you mean about grief is for people, you seem to suggest that we should not run from it, but embrace it, you know, give us more on that. >> sure. i think that, you know, those five stages of grief that structure the book. they are out of order. i get to do that.

but i think that what it does is sort of give people a guide, i suppose, without being a self- help book about how to miss someone. you don't need a guide on how to miss somebody. but how to really feel that missing in a sort of productive and articulate way. >> let me ask you, sloane, just for people that are watching and i'm sure so many will buy this book and learn from it. i'm curious what you say to them, can you take us to your low point? when you saw nothing but darkness around you, and you were engulfed by grief. can you talk about that moment, and it happens for so many people. can you talk about that moment when something switched and you were on the uptick, you decided

as i told myself at times and i'm in hell, keep walking. keep going. don't stop. what was that moment for you when you realized you were in hell and you had to keep walking through it? >> well, on a minor level, that moment was the moment i got the phone call that my friend had died. i remember being on the street. i said i needed to get off the street. i sat in the middle of the sidewalk like a senile dog that wouldn't move. i think that's shock. i don't know if that's the lowest moment. i think the lowest moment are a series of moments, where you cry into the night until your jaw hurts. where you feel like no one can help you. i think really what i talk about in the book is how to become on the side of the living. that's a thing that we don't talk about when we think of mourning. people who warrant our condolences and of course, you have that. i just didn't have the shelving to accept condolences.

everyone was here to give them to me and my friend wasn't. it felt like teams. i wanted to be on his team, not to say that i felt the way he felt. but that i just wanted him back and i felt like there was this bubble around everything. if i could just push through, i could pull him back. eventually i realized it's not what he would have wanted. i think that moment, realizing that he would have wanted me to have a full, big life, without him, helped me move forward. >> and what an incredible process of moving forward. writing this book, which i'm sure will help so many people. >> thank you. >> thank you, sloane. >> i hope it does. >> yeah. i'm sure it will. we really appreciate you writing the book and coming on and sharing with us this morning. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. the book is grief is for

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take a look at some of the conversations we had in the last week. >> one of the presidents of a big country stood up said, well sir, if we don't pay and we're attacked by russia, will you protect us? i said you didn't pay, you are delinquent, he said yes, let's say that happened. no, i would not protect you. in fact, i would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. you have to pay. you have to pay your bills. >> ukraine can stop putin if we stand with ukraine and provide the weapons. there are no american soldiers at war in ukraine and i'm determined to keep it that way. but now assistance to ukraine is being blocked by those who want to walk away from our world leadership. it wasn't long ago when republican president named

ronald reagan thundered, tear down this wall. now -- [ applause ] now my predecessor, a former republican president tells putin, quote, do whatever the hell you want. that's a quote. a former president actually said that. bowing down to a russian leader. i think it's outrageous, dangerous, and unacceptable. >> if you're looking for contrast, there is former president trump, first making those comments, relating a story that most certainly didn't happen. he told it anyway, because it started with sir. he had the president of the united states inside the congress last night giving the address and quoting ronald reagan. i mean, the way he manipulated the republicans in the room. started booing when he criticized donald trump. it appears he has the high

ground here. not that difficult of place to be, particularly on this issue in terms of the way republicans have talked about this and supported donald trump's view of the war in ukraine. >> i actually thought last night the president channeled the talk. there was a happy warrior quality to the whole thing. he relished the give and take, and i thought on this, the contrast between reagan's tear down this wall and do whatever you want, in two sentences, that showed the decline of what was an international republican party and is now an irresponsible party. the contrast of those who lines, how the party of reagan, the grand ole party, what it has come. he finessed the middle east issues as well as he could. supportive of israel at the same time, once again, messaging the isrealis, use force carefully, let the aid in. we have to have a political

dimension here. sympathetic to israel's need and right to respond to the horrific attacks of october 7th. so i thought on that, on the foreign policy side, you know, he was the commander in chief last night and again, the contrast with the isolationism on the other side could not have been more stark. >> i mean the contrast was so great. the contrast between him and his predecessor. you're telling me that obviously, a lot of americans really, really inspired by what he said. said last night, their biggest fund raising haul -- >> the biden campaign let us know that their 9:00 hour, as the president started the speech last night, was their biggest fund raising hour of the entire campaign, only to amend that later. the 10:00 p.m. hour was more. they had their best two hours of the entire campaign last night. they already walked into yesterday with a massive fund raising advantage over donald trump, who struggled to raise money, because he had to devote so much money to his legal

bills. this is something where even prior to last night, and the democrats feel great about that speech. they felt like they had a significant financial advantage. >> it ain't nothing that last night, the 9:00 hour and then the 10:00 hour set fund raising records for a campaign that has already set fund raising records for the most money ever raised. and i think people at home, not just democrats, but i'm sure republicans, moderate republicans, swing voters, independents, had to really, really like what they heard when donald trump once again, had the contrast time and again, somebody that was against freedom abroad. somebody that was against freedom at home. and that's when joe biden really brought it home. he talked about freedom abroad. but then he talked about

freedom at home. and women's freedom. and said back to the supreme court, oh, yeah, you say women, they have the right to express themselves politically? well stand back, because they are just about to do that. >> that was an incredible moment, especially with the members of the supreme court right there. last night president biden took that issue as joe said, reproductive rights, head on. he called for a guaranteed right to ivf nationwide and slammed the supreme court for overturning roe v. wade right to their faces. take a look. >> history is watching another assault on freedom. joining us is latoya, a social worker. 14 months ago, 14 months ago, she and her husband welcome add baby girl, thanks to the miracle of ivf. she scheduled treatments to have that second child. the alabama supreme court shut

down ivf treatments. she was told her dream would have to wait, but her family should never have happened unless congress acts, it could happen again. so tonight, let's stand up for families like hers, to my friends across the aisle. don't keep this waiting any longer. [ applause ] guarantee the right to ivf. guarantee it nationwide. my predecessor came to see roe v. wade overturned. he's the reason it was overturned and he brags about it. look at the chaos that has resulted. many of you in this chamber and my predecessor are promising to pass a ban. what freedom would you take away? the decision to overturn roe v. wade. the supreme court wrote the following. women are not without electorial power.

excuse me, electorial or political power. you're about to realize how much you are right about that. those bragging about overturning roe v. wade have no clue about the power of women. but they found out when reproductive freedom was on the ballot. we won in 2022 and we will win again in 2024. >> what an incredible moment. addressing the supreme court justices right there. hold that thought for a second and think about everything you just heard for just a moment from president biden last night. and compare it now to this. >> for 54 years, they were trying to get roe v. wade terminated and i did it and i'm proud to have done it. president trump is going to make a determination, what he thinks is great for the country and what is fair for the country, but the fact that i was able to terminate roe v. wade after 50 years of trying, they work for 50 years. i never seen anything like it. they worked -- and i was so

honored to have done it. i did something that nobody thought was possible. i got rid of roe v. wade. and by doing that -- by doing that -- [ applause ] it puts pro lifers in a very strong negotiating position. >> nobody did a job like i did. including roe v. wade, bringing it back to the states. what i did by killing roe v. wade, which everyone said was impossible. >> wow. president trump is very proud of that accomplishment of basically creating a women's healthcare emergency in the united states. literally life and death health situations for women. talk about being the party of life. the party of letting women die slowly or watch their babies die slowly and that's who they are now. and president biden took the bull by the horns last night and he addressed it head-on. he addressed the supreme court

head-on. unusual, but these are unusual times, aren't they? >> yeah, and you just know -- it's so prominent. in women's minds, men's minds. it was the first excerpt about him addressing the supreme court when they put that out in the afternoon. they wanted us to know that would be a focus from the guests that the first lady had in her box, someone who had been affected by ivf, you know, other people that had to go out of state to get abortion healthcare. and you know, it was just, the vice president said so well, they are telling you that you can't decide whether to end a pregnancy or when to start a family. you know, when jonathan talked about how they made a campaign raised a lot of money in the 9:00 p.m. hour, that is certainly what we heard at the top of the 9:00 p.m. hour. i wonder how much money was raised in the republican response, because you know, in terms of how women are going to feel how that went over, i feel

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joining us this morning is speaker amerita, and nancy pelosi of california. madame speaker, it's always good to have you on the show. i'm curious, could the president have drawn a starker contrast last night in his speech between him and his predecessor, he mentioned his predecessor many times, and you really could see the elephant in the room, if you know what i mean, and the elephant being donald trump. republican response to everything that president had en to say. if you didn't watch the republican response, i'm talking about the republican

response in the room. >> good morning. to be with you on international women's day. i congratulate you and iothank you for your leadership and now you're globally doing all of this. i think the president in his remarks last night was honoring women in a significant way in terms of policy. frankly, what we were watching last night was the president. his command of the issues. whatever the decision was on the part of the republicans or not was their decision. what nowe were concerned about was how the american people responded to president biden last night. and they did in a positive way. when the president came in, we were so excited to see him.

his welcome was overwomenning. but what was more important was him speaking, but after he spoke was even more overwhelming. the message is important to be reinforced by the principle and the congress throughout the hr country. so it was triumphant evening, regardless of the republican response. >> the democrats in the room were charged up and boldly supporting the president. what do they need to do after last night? >> thank you for asking. to have reinforcement of the message. as the president indicated clearly, the state of the union address was solid that is to say that the jobs are up to the tune of 15 million and still

counting. wages are up. unemployment is down inflation is down. and we still have to do more what is important about the ab message is we're proud of about what has been done. but elections are about the future and he talked about what needs to be done next. and that is the message that we must reinforce. some of what comes next springs in terms of what we have done the infrastructure bill and the rescue package and the pact act and the ira, the inflation reduction act, in terms of saving the planet and reduction the cost of prescription drugs. but more needs to be done. so i think the message of where we go safrom here, the presiden was very clear in the distinct that he made as to -- they want to take us backward in terms of our personal liberties, we want to go forward in terms of opportunity

for all americans, especially the people that inspire to. >> i want to ask you about speaker mike johnson. you sphave daughters. i have daughters. lot of familiar eye rolling last night during the president's speech. working alongside as a member of congress, seeing him as as speaker, a position that you held twice, making history, do you think there is room for compromise like foreign aid or the pressing issues? >> i certainly hope so. we moved forward to keep the government open. that is compromise. we have a democratic president and senate and wewe have a republican house. so there has to be a negotiation and there has to be compromise. so far, yesterday, we passed legislation. -- i mean this week we passed legislation to keep some of the

government open. and now we'll go forward with that. i'm optimistic about that. but what is really necessary right now is for us to have the support to go to ukraine to have the humanitarian assistance go to gaza, to have the package, the security package that the president he added that addresses our border security and our democracy secure. that is really what has to happen next. i do -- i'm optimistic that there is enough support on the republican side to get that done. we have to do it in a timely fashion. so by the time we leave here for passover and easter, week rejoice the glorious feast that is my favorite, that we have helped people throughout the ho world to protect democracy and protect ourselves at home and honor our commitment to the

people of ukraine. >> madam speaker, the cameras caught you last night speaking to mitch mcconnell. , if you will, share that conversation, if you would like. but setting that aside, we would like to get your take on mcconnell so sharply critical of donald trump in the past but endorsed him anyway. >> my conversation with leader w mcconnell was personal by extending the loss of a family member. so sad. elaine and i have met a many of their sisters. i know how close they all are. it is a sad situation. in terms of mitch, politically, he and i have had parallel time, 20 years i was speaker and leader at the promptly the approximately the same time he was the leader of them.

so on foreign cooperation, we worked together, sometimes we agreed. sometimes we didn't. but you see how strong he has been on ukraine. the sad part of it is that mitch mcconnell knows full well that the president was guilty of a crime on january 6th. he knew what was happening was wrong in terms of this beautiful capitol being assaulted, but not just this physical building, our constitution and our ability to honor our oath of office to have a peaceful transfer of power. he spoke to that eloquent on he the floor. but he would not allow a bipartisan commission to be formed. do me a favor. don't vote for something to investigate this we were not going to let this go unanswered. to know the president's predecessor was on all of this and come to the conclusion that

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part of a hearing from liz change any in 2022. she now launching a new in the called the great task. the gop has chosen. they will nominate a man that teamed to overturn an election and sees power. we have eight months to save our republic and ensure that donald trump is nowhere near the oval office again. that is from liz chenney. we have the writings of liz chenney as reasons for abandoning donald trump after voting for him twice. oklahoma businessman and long time republican voter jim young writes in a new piece for the oklahoman. trump has convinced that trump is a victim of political prosecution. after reading liz chenney's book, i do not know how he can be considered for the most

important job in the world. having subjected you to my own opinion, i will go no further to implore you before you cast a vote for donald trump. please take the time to read liz chenney's book. explain a little bit of your history. convince nal republicans you voted for him once. what did you see in him in 2016 and ultimately, he wrote about it. what flipped you the other way? >> i think donald trump did some things right in his first term. if he gets credit for it or

should get credit for it or not, in terms of a relatively stable economy, low inflation reasonable regulatory environment, i would say, i think he probably deserves a a little bit of credit for that. one thing that i want to clarify is that as soon as i saw what happened on january sixth and saw it on tv, i was appalled. i wrote donald trump off in my mind from ever wanting to support him again. just a couple months ago, i happened to pick up liz chenney's book. i downloaded to my ipad and read the entire book. i was just so impressed with

presentation. she went into the detail of the process of setting up the investigation committee and how the members are selected, why there were not more republicans on there. and by the way, the republicans chose to do it that way. i was just impressed with the book. i have a good friend who is a successful attorney here in oakland city, and we like friendly debates about politics from time to time. and i told him about the book. i told him that i wish i could contact liz and tell her how impressed i was with her book and message and impressed with her courage her honesty. the way she laid out the

argument against trump and it confirmed and cemented in my mind just how serious a problem we have from the standpoint that this was donald trump's show, unfortunately. it is frightening, frankly. the story is not over. i can't -- i don't know how i can present anymore clearly than joe and chris matthews did a few minutes ago. i certainly can't compete with them. so that was at message and her become was clearly important in my thinking process. >> and susan page has a question for you. you have to say we're talking about liz chenney, like donald trump said that she's the rhino now, liz chenney, that she is

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this is what you hear from the administration, touting the unemployment is down. wages are filing moving up 15%. another promising sign. the stock market hitting record highs and new home sales prices. this is the largest asset that they'll ever own. if you owned a home and biden took office and you own it today, you're seeing appreciation of that asset. >> that was fox news host

sandra smith, highlighting president biden's accomplishments. she did point out the hardships that americans are feeling when it comes to food costs, gas and credit card debt. >> those the the three issues. >> but biden/harris social media contact tweeting out, thanks fox news. >> there are people on fox that have done this. the press is expected to tout his economic achievements in his state of the union address tomorrow. joining us now with charts on those numbers is former treasury official and morning joe economic analyst steve ratner. what you got? good morning. >> reporter: good morning. i think sandra smith could do this as well as i could.

>> oh, please. please. boo. >> reporter: this was not a plea for sympathy. let me tell you how i see all of this there is a lot of good news that the president should and will be talking about, i'm sure, tomorrow night. so let's start with jobs. since biden took office, the economy has created 410,000 now jobs a month. some of that is coming out of covid. if you back out covid, 290,000 jobs per month. this is more jobs per month than any other president has created in history. >> i'm sorry. my ear piece just went out. could you repeat that last line again? >> reporter: if you take out the covid recovery, this is more jobs per month than any other president has averaged in history.

>> in history. in the 21st century. >> reporter: in like recorded history. i don't know what happened during george washington. >> reported history. >> okay. so we're looking at your next chart. and we're looking at wages, right? >> reporter: i'm not quite up to wages yet. give me a half second. i know we want to get to wages. let's talk about the overall economy. it fueled a lot of economic growth. 8.6% of gdp growth, more than donald trump in his first three years. second only in recent history to bill clinton who took office as we came out of a recession and got a bit of a bum with that. and -- bump with that. the economy was reopening. we had a bit of inflation. but look at where we are now h

last year 3.1%. that is a little bit higher than recent presidents, but in the strike zone and coming down. and economists expect this will be below 3% by election day. even with a bit of inflation, to your question, let's look at what happened to wages. so even after adjusting for inflation, the average american has 2.9% more income today than he or she had before president biden took office. but what is more interesting in a lot of ways is look where that income has been dispersed. if you were at the bottom and among the poorest americans, up 6.3%. if you're among wealthiest americans up .2% that means it may not be huge, but income and equality got lower under president biden. >> he talks about how it is about trim lines. this got to be one of the first times in the past 50 years that

we have teen that sort of lift, where the rich were not getting richer and the poorer were not getting poorer. >> yes. we had a move to income and equality going back 30, 40 years. this is one of the first times that you started to see it narrow. that is true. so that is another thing to be said about the biden presidency so far. >> i got that right. >> what is the next chart going to show us? >> let's talk about economic senate. biden has a huge amount of accomplishments besides this, and the inflation reduction act, build back better and prescription prices. you can go on and on. we know that the consumer sentiment was pretty tough. when he took office, since he took office, consumer sentiment went down, down, down like that. this is the average. interestingly, of course, what you think depends on where you sit.

the democrats are more positive. consumer sentiment bottomed in 2022. it has recovered pretty substantially. you can see on average, the consumer sentiment went up 28 points. democrats up 25. republicans up a little more. to the question that we all talk about, why is this not in the polls? approval rating for biden for the presidency went down, down, down. but look over here. i don't want to cling to small hope. but it does appear it turned up. his approval rating for his handling economy has gone from 40% to 47%. many people believe there is a lag effect. it takes a while for good news to be picked up in consumer sentiment and translate into better poll numbers. maybe we're seeing a turn for the president here. more week continues after a

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. hannah gutierrez-reed could spend two years in prison after being found guilty after cinematographer halyna hutchins was killed by a live round from a prop gun held by alec baldwin. baldwin said that he did not pull the trigger. he is faces involuntary manslaughter charges as well. his trial is set for july. surprise with the verdict? and what does it mean for alec this year?

>> it was not a strong case. if there was a strong case it was against the armor. someone said that they saw a bag of a white powdery substance that was never tested. and that was not guilty. aquickalec baldwin's team has gotten a whole look at the state's evidence. but a guilty verdict here means that alec baldwin's team can take the state's case and make it their own as they point to other responsible. if is the armer that was just mound guilty and dave halls or if it is the supplier, that is supposedly supplied the props

and the equipment and allegedly, according to the defense here, possibly the live round. so that is all good for alec baldwin. andand that is good for alec bald baldwin. they have indicted him on involuntary manslaughter. they stay is not the job of the actor to know what is until the gun that he was handed. it is the job of armor to assure you this is what you have. they are not live rounds of ammunition. what does his case look like? >> his case is a strong one for so many different reasons. the reason that you just said. an actor on a movie set that is probably the one place where you could say that the rules of gun safety are a little

different. everyone who handles the gun, you never point a gun at something you don't want to destroy. but on a movie set, a gun is not a gun. it is a prop. it is a toy. i don't want to sound glib. guns are not toys. if you're handed a gun and nothing is in it and you're an actor, you're entitled to believe it was not a gun. if it was a science fiction movie set in the future and it was a ray gun, you could believe it was not going to shoot a laser. the best witness for alec baldwin is his busiest witness. number one, he said, i cannot pull the trigger. there will be a lot of technical stuff about hancock, a full could be and what

happens if the trigger can be pulled. worst for alec baldwin, i, as a smart actor never point a gun at anyone. this was really stupid. i'll tell you why. he should have sat back on the idea i'm just a dumb actor. if you can imagine this is a 12- year-old actor on another set, they would never blamed for thinking that a prop handed them and told was not a gun, was not a gun. and now alec is on baldwin said i would never, never point a gun at someone and pull the trigger. bad idea. instead say, look, me just actor. me know nothing. >> that is all the time we have for today. we'll be back here tomorrow at 6:00 a.m. eastern for more morning joe weekend. n for more morning joe weekend.